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In this episode of Thyroid Pharmacist Healing Conversations, I spoke with Amy Ellis (Amy Untamed) about the often-overlooked emotional patterns that can contribute to chronic illness and autoimmune disease.
After recovering from chronic fatigue syndrome (ME/CFS) twice, Amy realized that healing wasn’t just about calming the nervous system or following the right protocols. Lasting recovery required addressing the deeper patterns of people-pleasing, perfectionism, self-abandonment, and unresolved trauma that had kept her body in a chronic state of stress.
During our conversation, we explore how chronic emotional stress, attachment wounds, and constantly putting others’ needs before your own can affect both physical and emotional health. We also discuss the importance of boundaries, self-worth, nervous system regulation, and learning to trust yourself as part of the healing process.
If you’ve ever felt like you’re doing everything right but still aren’t making the progress you’d hoped for, this episode offers a compassionate perspective on the emotional side of healing and why reconnecting with yourself may be one of the most important steps you can take.
What You’ll Learn in This Episode
- How chronic stress and self-abandonment can keep your body stuck in survival mode. Amy shares her remarkable journey of recovering from chronic fatigue syndrome (ME/CFS) twice, revealing how unresolved trauma, people-pleasing, and years of putting everyone else’s needs before her own contributed to nervous system dysregulation. Discover why healing these deeper patterns became a turning point in her lasting recovery.
- Why learning to stop abandoning yourself may be one of the most powerful steps toward healing. Many women are conditioned to seek approval, avoid conflict, and put everyone else’s needs first. Discover how setting boundaries, protecting your peace, and creating emotional safety can support both your nervous system and your overall health.
- The surprising connection between perfectionism and chronic illness. Trying to follow the “perfect” diet or have the “perfect” healing journey can create more stress, making it harder for your body to heal. Discover why self-compassion, flexibility, and joy better support recovery.
- How childhood experiences and attachment patterns can influence your health. Early life experiences shape self-worth, relationships, and the tendency to seek validation from others. Amy shares how healing these deeply rooted patterns helped her trust her intuition, build healthier relationships, and reconnect with herself.
- Why healing your nervous system involves more than food and supplements. While nutrition, gut health, and lifestyle changes are important, lasting recovery often requires addressing the emotional patterns that keep the body in a state of fight-or-flight. Discover how nervous system regulation and emotional healing can complement a root-cause approach to wellness.
- How hope and self-trust can transform your healing journey. Amy chose not to accept her diagnosis of chronic fatigue syndrome or the prognosis that she would never recover. Discover how surrounding herself with stories of healing, strengthening her intuition, and believing recovery was possible, helped her move forward.
Connect with Amy Untamed
- Follow Amy on Instagram, TikTok, and YouTube
- One-on-one Sessions with Amy are available by sending her a DM on Instagram
Resources Mentioned
- Faster EFT (Eutaptics) – The emotional processing technique Amy credits as one of the biggest tools in her healing journey.
- Brain retraining programs – Brain retraining was an important part of Amy’s initial recovery from chronic fatigue syndrome.
- Nervous system regulation – Creating a sense of safety in the body is crucial for healing.
Articles and Resources Related to Emotional Healing
- Why Women Have More Thyroid Disorders: The Izabella Wentz Safety Theory
- How Stress Affects Hashimoto’s
- Book by Dr. Izabella Wentz: Adrenal Transformation Protocol: A 4-Week Plan to Release Stress Symptoms and Go from Surviving to Thriving
- Podcast Episode: Trauma, Autoimmunity, and the Emerging Science of Psychedelic Therapy With Dr. Will Van Derveer
- Podcast Episode: Chronic Fatigue, Pain & Fibromyalgia: Healing the Body’s Silent Messages With Nicolas Canon
- Podcast Episode: Is Not Speaking Your Truth Contributing to Thyroid Symptoms?
- Podcast Episode: Weaponized Empathy: Why “Nice” Girls Get Sick in Trauma Bond Relationships With Dr. Nadine Macaluso
- Podcast Episode: Finally Hopeful: A Whole-Body Plan to Fix the Root Causes of Your Depression With Dr. James Greenblatt
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About Our Host
Dr. Izabella Wentz
Dr. Izabella Wentz is a compassionate, innovative, solution-focused integrative pharmacist dedicated to finding the root causes of chronic health conditions. Her passion stems from her own diagnosis of Hashimoto’s thyroiditis in 2009, following a decade of debilitating symptoms.
Dr. Izabella Wentz has written several best-selling books, including the New York Times bestseller Hashimoto’s Thyroiditis: Lifestyle Interventions for Finding and Treating the Root Cause, the protocol-based #1 New York Times bestseller Hashimoto’s Protocol: A 90-Day Plan for Reversing Thyroid Symptoms and Getting Your Life Back, the Wall Street Journal bestseller Hashimoto’s Food Pharmacology: Nutrition Protocols and Healing Recipes to Take Charge of Your Thyroid Health, and Adrenal Transformation Protocol. Her latest book, IBS: Finding and Treating the Root Cause of Irritable Bowel Syndrome, is now out in the world, and available here!
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Amy Untamed is an influencer, content creator, and public speaker who empowers spiritual women to trust their intuition and stop outsourcing their power. She’s known for her blunt, no-BS approach to self-growth, calling out the habits that keep women stuck in overthinking, people-pleasing, and constantly looking outside themselves for answers. Her work brings women back to self-trust, standards, and unfiltered self-expression.

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