Infections And Hashimoto's Molecular Mimicry-an autoimmune theory

Infections and Hashimoto's

Molecular Mimicry-an autoimmune theory

Molecular mimicry is the theory that bacterial cells or other microbial “triggers” have a similar appearance to the cells that make up parts of our physiology or “self” antigens.

When an infection occurs, these infectious cells are recognized as foreign. This is really great for getting rid of the infections, but sometimes the immune system targets proteins in the infectious cells that resemble the proteins in our own cells. This inadvertently causes a cross-reaction with our “self” antigens, i.e., our own cells. This case of mistaken identity is thought to trigger the start of autoimmunity.

One example is Streptococcus pyogenes. This is the bacteria that causes the common throat infection known as “strep throat”. In some cases, especially when the infection is not treated with antibiotics within two to three weeks, the immune system will start launching an attack against the Streptococcus bacteria.

Unfortunately, a component of the bacteria’s cell wall resembles that of the human heart valves, and this results in the immune system attacking the human heart valves in a case of mistaken identity. This reaction is known as rheumatic fever and can be deadly and often necessitates heart valve transplants. Arnold Schwarzenegger is probably the most well known person who was affected with this condition and has had to have heart valve transplants as a result.

Which bacteria have been associated with triggering Hashimoto’s?

A variety of bacterial infections have been implicated in triggering autoimmune thyroiditis, including Helicobacter Pylori (the same bacteria that causes ulcers), Borrelia burgdorferi (associated with Lyme disease) and Yersinia enterocolitica.

Antibodies to Yersinia (indicating exposure) in people with Hashimoto’s were found fourteen times more often than in people without Hashimoto’s. Yersinia membranes contain a site that binds TSH, making it a prime suspect based on the molecular mimicry theory.  Infection with this bacteria can induce antibodies against sites that recognize and stimulate TSH receptors, like the thyroid peroxidase enzyme or thyroglobulin. 

People can contract a Yersinia enterocolitica infection from contaminated meat, poultry, dairy products, and seafood (especially oysters). In 2012, a consumer group found that 67% of pork sold in the U.S. was contaminated with Yersinia!!

Testing

Physicians can run blood tests or breath tests for H. Pylori. If you cannot find a physician that will run the test for you, you can order your own labs through My Labs For Life (http://www.mylabsforlife.com/BloodTests/autoimmune-blood-testing ).

Borrelia is available as a blood test, while presence of Yersinia can be tested by a comprehensive stool analysis by requesting Yersinia to be added to the test panel. 

Treating Infections

New autoimmune theories have established that once the antigen (trigger) is removed, the antibody production goes away and the innocent part of our bodies (in the case of Hashimoto’s, the TPO enzyme) is no longer a target.

In the case of infections, once the infection is removed, the TPO should no longer be a trigger once the immune system recognizes that the infection is gone.  Thus, treating infections may help to heal Hashimoto’s. In other cases, the infection may be gone and the immune system may need a reboot.

Antibiotics for Autoimmune Conditions?

Some individuals have reported the normalization of thyroid peroxidase antibodies following taking the antibiotic doxycycline, which is effective for Yersinia enterocolitica and borellia burgdorferi as well as other bacteria. 

Work with your doctor to test for infections, and use antibiotics judiciously, as they can be incredibly dangerous when used incorrectly and lead to multi-drug resistance, an elimination of the beneficial bacterial flora and numerous side effects. There is a multitude of different antibiotics, each with a different group of bacteria they target, and each with their own set of side effects. Blindly taking antibiotics without knowing the cause of your infection may end up inadvertently destroying the beneficial bacteria while letting pathogenic and opportunistic bacteria thrive.

Be sure to supplement with probiotics during courses of antibiotic therapy, but at different times throughout the day so that the beneficial bacteria in the probiotics are not killed by the antibiotics. Work with your pharmacist to find out the half-life of your antibiotics and to find an optimal time to take probiotics.

Treatments for H Pylori 

H Pylori is a stubborn infection. Standard medical treatments for H Pylori include:

Triple therapy: Two antibiotics: Amoxicillin or Metronidazole plus Clarithromycin with a Proton Pump Inhibitor (While Proton Pump Inhibitors can make us more susceptible to H. Pylori by themselves, they work in synergy with antibiotics to reduce H. Pylori)

Quadruple therapy: Pepto Bismol + tetracycline + metronidazole + Proton Pump Inhibitor 

Some individuals may be hesitant to try antibiotics... integrative clinicians have reported much success with using natural remedies like the ones listed below...

Natural Substances that Can Help Overcome Infections

  • Probiotics and fermented foods like lacto-fermented sauerkraut 
  • Extra-virgin coconut oil
  • Whole cloves of garlic
  • Fermented foods
  • Glycyrrhizin (Licorice)
  • Quercetin
  • N-acetylcysteine
  • Coenzyme Q10
  • Turmeric
  • Oil of oregano
  • Aloe vera juice 
  • Mastic gum

Note: Not everyone will test positive for one of these infections, not everyone will be helped by Doxycycline or the natural substances I listed-these are just a few of the things that could be at the root cause of Hashimoto's... there are many other triggers... 

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Please consult your health-care provider before making any health-care decisions or for guidance about a specific medical condition.

Your Thyroid Pharmacist,
Dr. Izabella Wentz, Pharm D.

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Thanks a lot for the info. I do have been tested for helicobacter pylori with positive result. What I don´t understand is why to use a Proton Pump Inhibitor to make the stomach less acidic, as I have read that h. Pylori lower itself the stomach acids and this is why we have digestion issues. Also I wanted to ask you if you have heard that magnetic therapy can kill bacterias without harming our body. it mainly consist on being putted some magnets on our body by a specialist in this therapy. Could it be truth?
Yes I have had bimagnet therapy for h pylori and recurring strep bacterial infections and it really works! You have to see a therapist that studied with Dr Goiz!
Great overall article, but you are wrong about hpylori liking an acidic environment. The opposite is true. Hpylori does not like an acidic environment and not only avoids it in the stomach (by burrowing into the lining) but also releases urase to neutralize the acid in the stomach. Using a PPI would only make the stomach more habitable for hpylori. Also having low stomach acid is a problem for many people (because of PPI and other reasons) and can lead to leaky gut.
Hi Bet, You're right. Taking a PPI by itself would make us more susceptible to H. Pylori, however when used with antibiotics, the PPI has synergistic effects for suppressing H. Pylori. http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/766431 I would usually try natural therapies for H. Pylori, like mastic gum, but providing the info about the meds for those that do not benefit from herbals or prefer the RX route. I also agree with you on the low stomach issue. I am very much against using PPI's for acid reflux, as I believe that most of us do have low stomach acid. Additionally, and H. Pylori infection lowers our stomach acid further! Thank you for keeping me on my toes, I will clarify the blog post accordingly :)
I have been diagnosed with having the antibodies for H.Pylori based on a blood test. My Functional Dr says that he has a tea that is very effective in treating it and my Dr. recommends the antibiotics and acid suppressor. What is your opinion in which is more effective to treat H.Pylori?
Angeline- the antibotics are more powerful, but also have the potential to cause more damage due to killing off beneficial bacteria and side effects. S Boulardii, a probiotic has been found to be helpful when taken in combination with antibiotics and would likely be helpful with herbals as well.
I have confirmed H.Pylori and did the spit test for candida and am pretty sure I have that too. Are you aware of anyway to knock them both out at once or do they have to be treated one at a time?
Angeline- I am not aware of a single product that would take care of both infections... Some claim that Matula tea may do so, but I have not seen the clinical results. I usually recommend Mastic gum or antibiotics for H Pylori and Oil of Oregano or Nystatin for Candida. Keep us posted :)
Hi Izabella Thank you for your great work towards helping people with Hashimotos! I've recently found Blastocystis hominis & Trophozoits of Endolimax nana via a stool sample. My GP has prescribed Flagyl or metronidazole for this. Is it best to test for Pylori, Yersinia, Borellia first and take all the prescribed antibiotics if needed at once or better to pace them out one at a time? Can natural alternatives really get rid of Endolimax and Blastocystis hominis? Many thanks for any advice you have : )
How much oil of oregano do you suggest?
Thanks a lot for this post! I've been reading a lot on Hashimoto's, diets, and also finding your root cause. When I did some notes following your dig-at-it exercise - I came to a conclusion that it must be my tonsils - could it be? I've had tons of problems with them as a kid (a lot of infections, antibiotics, etc) and now, me being an adult, they seem to have been infected for years but nothing has been done with them at any point (once I was told to rinse my throat with some herbs but it didn't make any change). What are your thoughts on this? thanks a lot!
Hi Micah- The tonsils could be implicated, as gut issues are present in mostly everyone with autoimmunity. The gut of course starts in the mouth. A tonsil or tooth infection can cause inflammation. Additionally, I always recommend starting at the gut/adrenals as the imbalances are notorious in people with thyroid issues. Out of the people I have tested, 90% of them have adrenal issues (adrenals can become fatigued due to chronic infections), and 70% of them have gut issues (which can occur once adrenals are fatigued). If you have a copy of my book, I have more direction on how to approach the body as a whole. The key is to rebalance all of the systems to allow your body to heal itself: )
In March of 2013 my 11 year old son became very sick. The diagnosis was strep and scarlet fever. The doctor game him Clindamycin and two days later he had horrible pain behind his knees, and it began to migrate all over his body. Two weeks later I got the same thing, then it was passed onto his twin brother, all while my husband was deployed. Our stomachs were a mess and we could barely function. This went on for months followed by a few good days and then a few very bad. We were tested for everything, but no once could come up with anything. We saw a chinese herbalist, acupuncture, you name it we tried it. Finally I saw an Integrative doctor and he found I had Hashimoto's as well as enterobacteria and strep in my stomach (via stool test). He put me on bactrum (as I am allergic to penicillin) and I had a reaction of racing heart and anxiety like I've never known. The reaction stopped after more than 24 hours of being off the bactrum. He would like to put me on cipro, but I wanted to try Phytostan first. I guess I'm scared to take another antibiotic after the last episode, but I also don't want to keep having intestinal issues either. Right now my TSH is in the normal range and my TPO ab was 106. Do you think I should take the antibiotic, or stay on the phytostan? I take a 50 billion probiotic twice a day, along with glutamine, selenomathianine, and nystatin. I have been very strictly gluten free for 3 months. Many thanks to any help you can offer! BTW, the twins and I still have random pains (jaw, knees, fingers, toes) from the "virus", but it has gotten better. We still do not have our stamina back fully, which is insane considering it was almost a year ago!
Are shingles associated with Hashimoto's? Are there any supplements that will help with treatment once you have been diagnosed with shingles?
Bonita, you can try olive leaf extract for shingles. It is a strong antiviral. Also add other antivirals such as garlic, l-lysine, turmeric, boswellia. It tends to flare up with stress so you may want to see how to build up stress resistance and immunity. Also topical antiviral essential oils.
Thank you!
I had been diagnosed with Hashi's 3 years ago. I've done an excellent job with my team of providers to stay in remission. Sometimes it's short-lived and I backslide, but one reoccuring thing that popps up in labs is bacteria, parasites, and at times viral infections. I am recently now seeing an alternative dentist and being referred to a periodontist and orthodontist. Can you determine which bacteria you have by a saliva pathogen test for gum issues? I have been tested for Lyme twice and fall just below the range, so I have not gone down that road. Overall, I feel pretty good with the plan of treatment I've been on. Armour didn't work for me after 2 years. I recently switched to Synthroid and Cytomel and I think I'm doing fine. Actually, the medication throws me into HYPER, as it does tend to drive my TSH down. My T3s and T4s are within range. But, I need to address what's going on with my mouth. Do you have recommendations for periodontal issues before I go down this road? Any resources, recommendations you can provide would be appreciated. I have been on the Dr. Ellie's Oral Healthcare protocol for a little over a year now. http://www.drellie.com/pdfs/The-Kissing-System/Single-Sheet-Describing-the-Complete-Mouth-Care-System.pdf Although, there's been much improvement, I still need to address the bone loss and gums. Thank you so much. Your book was very helpful and I have recommended it to a few Hashi's patients as well.
Hi Cindi- Perhaps you may be one of those people that may need a boost of the immune system Here's a post about periodontitis- http://www.thyroidpharmacist.com/blog/periodontitis-a-trigger-for-hashimotos
I'm about 3 months status-post Hashi diagnosis, and I'm following your recommendations, bought your book for myself, and for my doctor. I'm getting better, for sure, and so far root causes seem to be estrogen-dominance (low progesterone/per labs with a hx of taking oral estrogens for menopause without enough progesterone) & high arsenic levels recently treated with DMSA pills. I'm about to retest again to ensure that the arsenic is out of my body. (It's a curious thing bc I haven't had rice/apple juice/any fruit for about 2+ months since being diagnosed and I've been drinking only spring water for about 2+ months as well, so I'm not sure where the arsenic toxicity is coming from??) I'm awaiting results from my "GI effects complete stool test" (I was supplement-free for 3 days prior to test). I take almost all of the supplements you recommend, including both VSL#3 and Betaine HCL with Pepsin. But I've read somewhere that the HCL can lessen/negate the effects of the probiotics in general. Does the HCL negate the VSL#3 probiotics, or lessen their effects? When I was supplement-free I was surprised that my reflux did not return full-scale, so I've cut back on the Betaine HCL to 1x/day. On a different matter, the VSL#3 pills get stuck in my esophagus frequently, despite drinking plenty of warm fluids, and even coconut oil to get it to pass through the esophagus. I wonder if that is a common complaint? Or, if it's okay to open the capsule and drink the VSL#3 in water, etc. Thanks for everything, your book is my ultimate Hashi guide, it's well-highlighted, sticky-noted, and broken-in.
Update on the VSL#3 getting stuck: I've started taking it during my meals, so that I have enough food to move it down my esophagus. That has worked. I'd rather not open them up for the sake of convenience (I am taking many supplements), however the VSL3.com website states that the pills can be open up and spread on food, although it shouldn't be hot food or hot liquids: "HOW TO TAKE The capsules can be swallowed whole or opened and consumed like the packets. The powder packets should be mixed with cold water or food and consumed. VSL#3 packets have a lemon cream flavor and VSL#3 JUNIOR has a watermelon flavor VSL#3 should be stored in a refrigerator." And, "What can my patients mix VSL#3 or VSL#3-DS in?" VSL#3 and VSL#3-DS can be mixed into any non-carbonated beverage or any food such as yogurt, ice cream or apple sauce, and then consumed. VSL#3 and VSL#3-DS should not be mixed with hot beverages or hot foods as high heat inactivates the live bacteria.
Update on the VSL#3 getting stuck: I've started taking it during my meals, so that I have enough food to move it down my esophagus. That has worked. I'd rather not open them up for the sake of convenience (I am taking many supplements), however the VSL3.com website states that the pills can be open up and spread on food, although it shouldn't be hot food or hot liquids.
Izabella, wow...thank you so much for all the help and research. I was diagnosed in 2012 but think I had it long before, maybe since 2003 or even 1998 (the years I gave birth, I had symptoms). My question about infectious organisms relates to viruses that go dormant but never get cured, like herpes. Does this affect hashi's and is there anything that can be done about it?
Where do you buy mastic gum and what brand is best?
Curios, I have been told I have the herpes virus effecting my system, giving all thyroid issue etc.... but ive read you cant kill this virus? So what do I do?
Hi Jane and Dianne, I hope you don't mind me adding my two cents, I can relate to the herpes virus issue, and here's what I found: The article link (below) says that a daily L-lysine supplement can be taken to suppress herpes virus, although it doesn't sound like the research is strong to support the claim, I take it because it's not likely to be a detriment given my health conditions and it may help to suppress the virus. I've also read that there is no getting rid of it, only suppressing it. The article below also lists possible risks of taking L-lysine, but it provides some confusing recommendations about diet: https://umm.edu/health/medical/altmed/supplement/lysine I've also read that it's important to learn about the arginine-lysine ratio of foods: shouldn't be too heavy on the arginine side (for example, nuts, chocolate, seeds have too much arginine). Here's a list of the arginine-lysine content of foods, amongst many arginine-lysine ratio lists: http://www.sandiegohomeopathy.com/downloads/Lysine_Arginine_Foods.pdf Another list about diet and herpes that seems very reasonable, and easier to follow, like an "eat more of this and less of that" approach is: http://www.herpes-coldsores.com/diet_and_nutrition_with_herpes.htm But the bottom line seems to be to take L-lysine daily to tilt the daily scales of lysine and arginine contents in food in favor of lysine, and avoid, eat sparingly foods that are really high in arginine (chocolate, nuts, seeds, etc). The author of the first arginine-lysine ratio list above provided these recommendations for supplementing with L-lysine: "How to take a Lysine supplement: During flare-ups: Take 1000 mg three times a day with meals. If you suffer from recurrent or frequent herpes outbreaks you can take a maintenance dose of 1000 mg of lysine per day General Interactions with Lysine: Do not take lysine with milk or dairy products. Very large doses of lysine can increase the toxicity of aminoglycoside antibiotics (i.e. gentamicin, neomycin and streptomycin)." These are really good questions, and I'm so glad that you both were brave enough to ask, because I wasn't brave enough. I found a L-lysine product that I liked about 6 weeks ago, but I'm eager to know if Izabella even recommends L-lysine and/or other supplements/dietary tips for herpes suppression and also any research that supports a link between herpes and hashi.
Hi Jane and Dianne, I hope you don't mind me adding my two cents, I can relate to the herpes virus issue, and here's what I found: The article link (below) says that a daily L-lysine supplement can be taken to suppress herpes virus, although it doesn't sound like the research is strong to support the claim, I take it because it's not likely to be a detriment given my health conditions and it may help to suppress the virus. I've also read that there is no getting rid of it, only suppressing it. The article below also lists possible risks of taking L-lysine, but it provides some confusing recommendations about diet: https://umm.edu/health/medical/altmed/supplement/lysine I've also read that it's important to learn about the arginine-lysine ratio of foods: shouldn't be too heavy on the arginine side (for example, nuts, chocolate, seeds have too much arginine). Here's a list of the arginine-lysine content of foods, amongst many arginine-lysine ratio lists: http://www.sandiegohomeopathy.com/downloads/Lysine_Arginine_Foods.pdf Another list about diet and herpes that seems very reasonable, and easier to follow, like an "eat more of this and less of that" approach is: http://www.herpes-coldsores.com/diet_and_nutrition_with_herpes.htm But the bottom line seems to be to take L-lysine daily to tilt the daily scales of lysine and arginine contents in food in favor of lysine, and avoid, eat sparingly foods that are really high in arginine (chocolate, nuts, seeds, etc). The author of the first arginine-lysine ratio list above provided these recommendations for supplementing with L-lysine: "How to take a Lysine supplement: During flare-ups: Take 1000 mg three times a day with meals. If you suffer from recurrent or frequent herpes outbreaks you can take a maintenance dose of 1000 mg of lysine per day General Interactions with Lysine: Do not take lysine with milk or dairy products. Very large doses of lysine can increase the toxicity of aminoglycoside antibiotics (i.e. gentamicin, neomycin and streptomycin)." These are really good questions, and I'm so glad that you both were brave enough to ask, because I wasn't brave enough. I found a L-lysine product that I liked about 6 weeks ago, but I'm eager to know if Izabella even recommends L-lysine and/or other supplements/dietary tips for herpes suppression and also any research that supports a link between herpes and hashi.
Hi Jane and Dianne, I hope you don't mind me adding my two cents, I can relate to the herpes virus issue, and here's what I found: The article link (below) says that a daily L-lysine supplement can be taken to suppress herpes virus, although it doesn't sound like the research is strong to support the claim, I take it because it's not likely to be a detriment given my health conditions and it may help to suppress the virus. I've also read that there is no getting rid of it, only suppressing it. The article below also lists possible risks of taking L-lysine, but it provides some confusing recommendations about diet: https://umm.edu/health/medical/altmed/supplement/lysine I've also read that it's important to learn about the arginine-lysine ratio of foods: shouldn't be too heavy on the arginine side (for example, nuts, chocolate, seeds have too much arginine). Here's a list of the arginine-lysine content of foods, amongst many arginine-lysine ratio lists: http://www.sandiegohomeopathy.com/downloads/Lysine_Arginine_Foods.pdf Another list about diet and herpes that seems very reasonable, and easier to follow, like an "eat more of this and less of that" approach is: http://www.herpes-coldsores.com/diet_and_nutrition_with_herpes.htm But the bottom line seems to be to take L-lysine daily to tilt the daily scales of lysine and arginine contents in food in favor of lysine, and avoid, eat sparingly foods that are really high in arginine (chocolate, nuts, seeds, etc). The author of the first arginine-lysine ratio list above provided these recommendations for supplementing with L-lysine: "How to take a Lysine supplement: During flare-ups: Take 1000 mg three times a day with meals. If you suffer from recurrent or frequent herpes outbreaks you can take a maintenance dose of 1000 mg of lysine per day General Interactions with Lysine: Do not take lysine with milk or dairy products. Very large doses of lysine can increase the toxicity of aminoglycoside antibiotics (i.e. gentamicin, neomycin and streptomycin)." These are really good questions, and I'm so glad that you both were brave enough to ask, because I wasn't brave enough. I found a L-lysine product that I liked about 6 weeks ago, but I'm eager to know if Izabella even recommends L-lysine and/or other supplements/dietary tips for herpes suppression and also any research that supports a link between herpes and hashi.
I was diagnosed with Hashi's 4 years ago and doing everything I can with diet; supplements; thyroid meds; exercise; sleep. Back in Nov 2013, my joints were under attack (knees down into my feet), fever, and felt flu-like symptoms. Per one of my providers, she suggested to run a Lyme test. She has thought all along my symptoms were very Lyme-like. I ran a CD3, CD57 and it came back well below the normal range. So, one would assume I had Lyme. I retested 6 days later and everything came back within normal range. Almost three times higher. Since then, I continue to have joint stiffness, fatigue, endurance issues, balance, vertigo, etc. and my ANA is showing additional autoimmune in the RA/Lupus family. So, I was referred to a Rheumatologist for further testing for RA, Lupus. I recently had skin grafting on my gums (yeah, my oral health has been greatly affected too). I was taking doxycycline for 10 days post oral surgery and I had no joint issues whatsoever. So, I didn't really make the connection until I google searched antibiotics and joint pain, which lead me to it's a bacteria attacking my joints. Long story short, should I test for the 3 bacteria that are common in Hashi's pts and then go from there? I thought I was chasing another diagnoses, but feel this is all caused by a bacteria that is not being treated in my protocol. Thoughts?
Cindi- It may be difficult to pinpoint the individual bacteria, but I would recommend working with a functional medicine doctor to do a GI effects stool test. Often the bacteria is the the mouth or the gut. Hope that helps
I have been told by a Doc who treats Fibromyalgia and Hashimoto's that I have an active virus called HHV-6. Today I am starting high doses of acyclovir. I have been taking small doses for many years to keep my shingles virus under control. He also wants me to take Zantac because the high doses of acyclovir may cause stomach problems. I am reluctant to take the Zantac so, I will try to go without it unless my stomach begins to be problematic. This doc is well known in the Fibromyalgia circles. His name is Dr. Daniel Dantini in Palm Coast/Ormond Beach, FL Do you have experience with treating viruses? Any thoughts on HHV-6 would be appreciated.
I have a question about oregano oil. I've used it over the past few years as an antibiotic by applying it to the skin over the site of infection (such as on the gums), and I used to take caplets of it to try to improve my gut health, since I've had chronic candida problems for many years. Recently a friend told me she had read that one should not take doses of oregano oil because it may kill beneficial gut flora along with the bad. Do you happen to know if it's safe to take orally, or will it cause greater imbalances than it cures? Also, if I've consumed pork and oysters, etc., over time and might have a Yersinia infection, is there a natural way to deal with that, as opposed to taking pharmaceutical antibiotics? I've had to take far too many of them in my life, and they're likely a source of many of my problems already, so I'd really like to avoid taking any more. Thanks!
I had a perforated duodenal ulcer 3 and a half years ago, caused, I believe by h.pylori, i had the triple treatment snd my gp has had me on omeprazole ever since, should I be taking them? I have had an underactive thyroid for 14 years or more and was diagnosed Hashimotos in November 2013
What about the 'Mono' infection, I believe that I read you had mono at one point. I too had mono and I have heard that there is a pretty high correlation between people who develop Hashimotos and those who have previously had mono...
Do you have any information on Hepatitis C and Hashi's? I was recently diagnosed and doctors and I believe it may be contributing to my thyroid condition. I believe it may be a major cause of most of my conditions (I have 5 now!).
I have mastoiditis again. could thyroid problems cause this ear infection of middle ear
Hey I have been diagnosed with hashimotos recently and I m on supplementations since then.reading your article I believe it might be an infectious cause because I have had throat infections quite frequently and also gerd. Can treating them undo the hashimotos ?
I have been reading your book and find it fascinating! It makes so much sense and is helping me "connect the dots" of the root cause of my Hashimoto's Thyroiditis. You mention Thytrophin PMG supplement to be used as a decoy to attract attacking white blood cells and antibodies. What if, as in my case one has reoccurring EBV infections and antibodies for H. Pylori? If either of these were the triggers for the thyroiditis, would Thytrophin PMG draw the white blood cells away from the infectious agents or does it help clear the way for the white blood cells and antibodies to attack only the infectious agents and not the thyroid cells? I guess the short question is, is it safe to use Thytrophin PMG if you suspect the trigger for your Hashimoto's Disease to be infectious agents? Thank you so much
Hi , please can you help offer me some help and advice . I was diagnosed with under active thyroid two years ago . Since Christmas I have taken throat ear and urinary infections alternately plus shingles . I have zero energy weak legs dizzy plus brain fog can't tolerate high temp . Also have a temperature most of the time plus other symptoms . I can't even go for small walks as I collapse after it and sleep . Please can you help give me some advice as I am so worried . I'm only in my thirties and my life has stopped .
I have been treating candida, (strict diet, anti fungal and probiotics) for 6 weeks. My naturopath believes the candida is what triggered my Hashimoto's. Is there an accurate test to determine the candida is gone?
I just was referred to a gastro Dr and he gave me an antibiotic and stool softener after talking to me for 2 minutes. No tests, no exam. My "gut" tells me not to do it. I have Hashimoto's and been having trouble tolerating ALOT of foods lately. I'm down to only a few veggies, meats. Any advice would be appreciated. Thank you for your invaluable information!!
I have hyperthyroid for almost 10 years ' and I got levotheroxin 75 mlg
Hello my daughter has high thyroid antibodies and diagnosed with hashimoto few month ago . For the last 5 years been having 4 to 5 UTI a year and took so many antibiotics ,,,, she is seeing an alternative dr and start working on her leaky gut inflammation and adrenal fatigue . She didn't have any UTI for the last 9 month . Unfortunately she had one last week . She has low progesterone level and experiencing high level of testeserone loosing hair and hve facial hair and high libbido ,she is using apex supplements . Any suggestion to help her ?
Hi I did know if anything can help me. My TPO has been in the 2,000. I am allerg to most of antibiotics. I am on oregano oil, cat claw (TOA-free) carnivora,Teasel. My doc said not to "worry" about my TPO number. She thinks I have Lymes and candida. So far all this treatment as got me is a tummy ache. Any in put would be of much help. Carolyn
I have Hashis and I had a blood test that said I have reactivad Epstein Barr virus. What do you recommend for adding this issue? My Dr is wanting me to do MAH ozone therapy. I just can't find enough research about it.
Hi Izabella, I was diagnosed with Hashimoto's thyroiditis in 2008 and in the same year I contracted parasites from bad water namely Blastocystis species and Dientamoeba species. I am wondering if the molecular mimicry theory can be applied to these organisms as well. Could these parasites have triggered the antibodies to attack my thyroid?
I feel right at home here with all the comments. I have been diagnosed or rather misdiagnosed for over 20 years. I believe my problem has been Hashimoto's and viral/bacteria/parasites or candida all along. I cleared up the Lupus taking wheat out of my diet, also took out dairy but the Fibromyalgia I was diagnosed with has never changed. I have sore throats, chronic muscle and joint pain and fatigue that never goes away. The infections makes more sense. This all started with infections, one after another after a fall at work. Throat infections, kidney infections, lung infections, gut aches, throwing up blood and severe bloody diarrhea. It was like I had a virus that kept going through my organs and has never went away to this day. I am looking for a permanent solution. Because candida, pylori, herpes virus and others hide in the lining of the gut, we have to kill them off when active. We then need to fire up our immune system with certain herbs and the right food so we can heal our microbiome to keep invaders in check. I read that candida hides deep and there is a way to bring them out and cut their heads off with some bone something (didn't really understand what she said), then cleanse and rebuild. The trick is to kill them off when they are active. I believe sugar feeds them and I have had a sugar addiction most of my life. Interesting to find out about the arginine-lysine foods as I eat a lot of nuts and seeds and used to eat a lot of chocolate. I am not sure where to get the test for the virus and bacteria's in Canada though. Great info, thanks for sharing ladies.
My son is 6 yo.. He had four cases of strep throat last winter.. ENT spec. Decided to take tonsils and adenoids out last March in hopes of no more Strep..this winter 2104/2015 he has had Strep at least 4 times I don't think he's really ever gotton over it.. Numerous antibiotics have been giving and he's still Strep positive.. They just ran blood work last Monday and they called today saying he has H-pylori.. Could the Strep and this be related? Also has lymp nodes on neck that are prominent. Always has a tummy headache and sore throat..they are starting two antibiotics tomorrow and acid reflux meds to help out.. Just wondering if the H-pylori is causing the Strep? And if we are headed in the right direction on the meds to treat the H-pylori? Thank you!
I was diagnosed as hypothyroid 10 years ago after countless years of suffering and countless conventional doctors' not recognizing all my classic symptoms. A recent functional tested for numerous infections. I have an "old" but "active" Epstein-Barre virus. He's mystified why my EBV antibody count is so very high. I've been needing to take 2 Excedrin tablets at least 3 times a week for quite some time now. I've researched EBV and found no suggestions other than lots of water, good sleep and eating well. You are doing an exemplary job helping others to be their own advocates and I thank you for that. God bless!
EBV lies dormant in many of us. It can become activated through stress and can be the cause of Hashimoto's. I am currently looking at this as a cause of my Hashimoto's. I was told that Hydrosol Sovereign Silver, cat's claw and licorice root help to eliminate EPV. I am currently looking into this and have not yet tried so please do you own due diligence. I just wanted to pass along in case it can help :)
I was diagnosed 21years ago with hypothyroidism put on levothroxine. I was not advised to do anything other than take med and watch the weight fall off. I took meds weight stayed with me. Primary care drs have monitered and dosed me. Three years ago I was sent to an endocrinologist since my numbers stayed off &extreme fatigue. Ending diagnosed me with Hashimotos upped levothroxine rechecks 2-3 months. She watches my vitamin D but that seems about it. Never in the 21years since diagnosis has any Dr ever mentioned the things I am reading about on this site. I now weigh 275 pounds, I have high no, take a fluid pill, battle with potassium staying high enough...currently take 100 news a day to stay close to normal have it checked every two wks, have racing heart rate which I take med for, allergy is my middle name so I take stretch in am. & xyzal at nite, restless leg med, ambien to sleep. I take 2000 units of vitamin D daily along with my multivitamin. I take a magnesium to help retain the potassium. I am taking two different bp meds. Well three if you count the one for racing heart. My legs absolutely hurt so bad from behind my knees downward that I cry every night. I do take Etodalac for arthritis. Seems my joints are hurting so much worse lately. I have contributed that to stress as my husband of 24 years has moved out and wants a divorce. I am 47 years old but there are days I would swear I am 90. I can barely get around all my joints crack snap and pop from neck to ankles. I also take an antidepressant although I can't imagine why LOL I just want to feel better ...why has my Drs not mentioned any of the ideas I read here. I am confused I stay foggy mentally and also have trouble falling asleep while driving. Each Dr points me to use my CPAP which I don't cause it ALWAYS makes my sinus infections worse. I keep sinus infection alot of course I am allergic to everything on the list. I take the allergy shots that I have took periodically since I was 9 years old. What are your thoughts?
I received my labs back from MED Lab and it states H. pylori, IgG Abs Result: <0.4. It says it's in normal range but it was not negative. Do I still implement H.P. protocol? Thank you,
Thank you so much for posting this! Does licorice candy get rid of H. Pylori? As far as probiotics, will eating yogurt every day help?